The Relate GREAT! Podcast with Jonathan Sherman & Friends

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We all want to have better relationships with others and with ourselves. This is The RelateGREAT! Podcast with Jonathan Sherman and Friends, and I am your host, Jonathan Sherman, LMFT, Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, author, and speaker. Over 30 years as a therapist, I’ve met a lot of cool people who know a lot of cool relationship and psych stuff. Join my fascinating guests and me as we talk about all kinds of relationship and mental health issues in a light-hearted, smart, insightful, and fun way. Join us! This’ll be fun…


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007 | MH: “Mess and Mental Health - The Hidden Shame of Clutter” with my friends, The Pahl Sisters, Decluttering Experts

An interview with Jonathan Sherman, LMFT, where he shares seven ways to connect with your children.

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007 | MH: “Mess and Mental Health - The Hidden Shame of Clutter” with my friends, The Pahl Sisters,
Jonathan Sherman, LMFT

In this interview with the Pahl Sisters, decluttering experts, we talk about the impact of mess on mental health, and vice versa.

▶︎▶︎ EPISODE NOTES

In this episode of The RelateGREAT! Podcast, host Jonathan Sherman is joined by Chelsea Paul and Karissa Pahl from All of You Services, a cleaning company that goes beyond traditional cleaning to address mental health struggles. Jonathan discovered Chelsea through a heartfelt social media post highlighting the connection between depression and overwhelming mess. Chelsea and Karissa share their approach to helping clients declutter and deep clean their homes without judgment, emphasizing the therapeutic benefits of a tidy space. They discuss the emotional and relational impacts of living in disorganized environments, their personal connection to mental health issues like ADHD, and their unique teamwork dynamics. The episode concludes with practical advice for listeners feeling overwhelmed by clutter.

  • 00:00 Introduction to Chelsea's Post on Depression and Messiness

  • 02:44 Mental Health and Cleaning: A Deeper Connection

  • 03:29 Client Experiences and Vulnerability

  • 06:12 The Process of Decluttering and Organizing

  • 08:58 Challenges and Boundaries in Cleaning 10:42 The Emotional Impact of a Clean Space

  • 21:16 The Sisters' Journey into Cleaning

  • 25:13 Hyper-Focused and Satisfied

  • 26:08 Family Therapist Insights

  • 26:23 Navigating Family Business Dynamics

  • 27:24 Communication Challenges and Strategies

  • 31:50 Impact of Home Organization on Relationships

  • 40:13 Tips for Listeners: Cleaning and Mindset Hacks

  • 44:07 Final Thoughts and Contact Information

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006 | Parenting: “7 Ways to Connect with Your Kids and Teens.” Interview with Jonathan.

An interview with Jonathan Sherman, LMFT, where he shares seven ways to connect with your children.

006 | Parenting: “7 Ways to Connect with Your Kids and Teens.” Interview with Jonathan.
Jonathan Sherman, LMFT

▶︎▶︎ EPISODE NOTES

In this episode, Jonathan Sherman, a marriage and family therapist, offers seven crucial parenting tips. The advice stems from a presentation he gave at a conference and an interview with young clinicians from Utah Youth Village. The key areas covered include understanding your child's world, allowing feedback, avoiding power struggles, the importance of both quality and quantity time, fostering good relationships with teenagers from an early age, being interested in your child's interests, and the value of appreciation. Sherman shares personal anecdotes and professional insights, encouraging parents to grow and adapt alongside their children while maintaining patience, presence, and authentic communication.

▶︎▶︎ HIGHLIGHTS

  • 01:24 1. Make an effort to understand your child’s world

  • 02:11 2. Allow kids to give you feedback

  • 05:26 3. Not engaging in power struggles allows kids to teach us -- Lesson from a 13-year-old rebel

  • 12:37 4. Quality time is a function of quantity time - Patience and Presence.

  • 16:07 5. Relationships With Teenagers Starts When They’re Young

  • 18:32 6. Be interested in the things that interest your kids

  • 21:19 7. Appreciation is a cushion

Referenced Resources:

The 7 Principles for Building a Strong Family book and online masterclass.

  • RESOLVE conflict,

  • IMPROVE communication,

  • INCREASE bonding, and

  • SECURE attachments with your partner and your kids.

My 7 Principles for Building Strong Families workbook and online course will help you, your partner, and your family overcome problems and create truly GREAT relationships that last a lifetime. Enroll today and get the workbook at RelateGREAT.net/strongfam

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005 | The Call-in Show: “Dating Disasters!” Part 2

In this episode of the RelateGREAT! Podcast with Jonathan Sherman, listeners are treated to a variety of dating stories during the second part of a two-part call-in show focused on dating disasters.

005 | The Call-in Show: “Dating Disasters!” Part 2
Jonathan Sherman, LMFT

▶︎▶︎ EPISODE NOTES

In this episode of the RelateGREAT! Podcast with Jonathan Sherman, listeners are treated to a variety of dating stories during the second part of a two-part call-in show focused on dating disasters. The episode features 12 callers, including Jonathan's son Adam, who shares his high-school dating mishap. Other callers like Peyton and his wife Lauren narrate their humorous and awkward relationship beginnings, and Austin recounts his clumsy journey from heartbreak to finding true love. Xerxes and Laurene share their long-term marriage experiences, emphasizing the importance of mutual respect and friendship in enduring relationships. Jonathan Sherman, a marriage and family therapist, also shares insights drawn from John Gottman's relationship research, highlighting the significance of friendship and admiration in successful marriages.

▶︎▶︎ HIGHLIGHTS

  • 00:00 The Call-in Show: Dating Disasters! Part 2

  • 00:54 Adam's High School Date

  • 05:54 Caller Peyton and Lauren's Awkward Beginnings

  • 17:23 Caller Austin's Nervousness

  • 17:40 Introduction to the Writing Group

  • 18:42 Austin's Clunky Love Story

  • 20:42 The Turning Point in Austin's Relationship

  • 24:45 The Proposal and Marriage

  • 31:33 Reflections on Marriage and Friendship

  • 36:00 Xerxes' Story of 32 Years of Marriage

  • 43:01 Laurene's Bad Date and Love Story

  • 49:13 Conclusion and Future Plans

Referenced Resources:

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004 | The Call-in Show: “Dating Disasters!” Part 1

In the debut episode of the Relate Great Podcast Call-In Show, hosted by marriage and family therapist Jonathan Sherman, listeners dive into real-life stories about dating disasters.

004 | The Call-in Show: “Dating Disasters!” Part 1
Jonathan Sherman, LMFT

▶︎▶︎ EPISODE NOTES

In the debut episode of the RelateGREAT! Podcast Call-In Show, hosted by marriage and family therapist Jonathan Sherman, listeners dive into real-life stories about dating disasters. Jonathan introduces the podcast's format and themes, focusing on humorous, touching, and sometimes tragic tales from the dating world. Callers share their personal experiences, ranging from shocking first dates to heartfelt reflections on lessons learned in relationships. The episode also offers insightful relationship principles and promotes Jonathan's online masterclass on building strong families.

▶︎▶︎ HIGHLIGHTS

  • 00:00 The Call-in Show: Dating Disasters! Part 1

  • 00:24 Introduction to the Relate Great Podcast

  • 00:58 Podcast Format and Future Plans

  • 01:39 Dating Scene Insights and Stories

  • 05:12 Mindy's Dating Disaster

  • 08:47 Jess's Relationship Struggles

  • 15:34 Kara's Awkward Concert Date

  • 20:57 Angel's Unforgettable First Date

  • 27:50 Larissa's Long-Winded Date

  • 31:46 The Unimpressive Husband

  • 32:16 Dating Stories at Family Parties

  • 32:53 Planning Future Episodes

  • 33:51 Caller Taylor's Story

  • 40:36 Mindy's Lovebomber

Referenced Resources:

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003 | Communication: "The Pursue-Withdraw Dynamic" with my friend Emil Harker, LMFT (Copy)

In this interview with Emil Harker, LMFT, and Jonathan Sherman, LMFT, we laugh and talk about the often perplexing pursue-withdraw dynamic... and how to use it.

003 | Communication: "The Pursue-Withdraw Dynamic" with my friend Emil Harker, LMFT
Jonathan Sherman, LMFT

In this interview with Emil Harker, LMFT, and Jonathan Sherman, LMFT, we laugh and talk about the often perplexing pursue-withdraw dynamic... and how to use it.

▶︎▶︎ EPISODE NOTES

In this episode of the RelateGREAT! Podcast, licensed marriage and family therapists Emil Harker, LMFT, and Jonathan Sherman, LMFT, delve into the pursue-withdraw dynamic often seen in relationships. This is a re-broadcast of an episode Emil did on a former podcast he was involved with. They discuss the motivations behind pursuing and withdrawing behaviors and how these can create a damaging cycle if not managed properly. Jonathan and Emil share practical strategies for both pursuers and withdrawers to break the cycle and foster healthier communication and connections. By emphasizing the importance of safety and understanding, they offer actionable advice to help listeners strengthen their relationships and avoid common pitfalls.

▶︎▶︎ HIGHLIGHTS

  • 00:00 Introduction: The Art of Listening

  • 00:25 Stop, Look, and Listen: Practical Tips

  • 01:40 Meet Emil Harker: A Trusted Therapist

  • 04:20 Exploring the Pursue-Withdraw Dynamic

  • 04:53 Common Terms and Misconceptions

  • 05:56 The Pursue-Withdraw Cycle in Relationships

  • 08:05 Gender Patterns and Topic-Based Dynamics

  • 12:12 Managing the Pursue-Withdraw Dynamic

  • 14:52 Understanding the Pursuit of Sex and Power

  • 15:22 The Emptiness of Pursuit

  • 16:59 The Pursue-Withdraw Dynamic

  • 17:09 Why Do People Withdraw?

  • 20:26 The Role of Fear in Withdrawal

  • 20:52 Strategies for Pursuers and Withdrawers

  • 23:46 The Importance of Safety in Relationships

  • 26:56 Effective Communication Techniques

  • 30:12 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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002 | "On Stuckness and Getting Unstuckified" with my friend Gary Klein, LCSW

In this interview with Gary Klein, LCSW and Jonathan Sherman, LMFT talk about  getting unstuck in life with some tips and tricks from the field.

002 | "On Stuckness and Getting Unstuckified" with my friend Gary Klein, LCSW
Jonathan Sherman, LMFT

In this interview, Gary Klein, LCSW, and Jonathan Sherman, LMFT, talk about getting unstuck in life with some tips and tricks from the field.

▶︎▶︎ EPISODE NOTES

This episode explores the idea that most mental and emotional issues boil down to feeling stuck. They share insights using anecdotes, metaphors, and humor while discussing basic cognitive-behavioral techniques to get 'unstuck.' They highlight the importance of distinguishing between self-worth and self-esteem, recognizing guilt versus shame, and the power of repetition in changing behaviors. The host and guest also entertain with a playful banter about outlandish ideas like selling P tubes and certificates to metaphorically and humorously address the concept of being stuck. In this lighthearted and informative episode, listeners are offered both laughter and practical advice on enhancing their mental health.

▶︎▶︎ TIMESTAMPS

  • 00:00 Introduction and Podcast Origins

  • 01:14 Welcome to the Heavy Mental Hour

  • 01:59 Understanding Stuckness in Therapy

  • 04:55 The Concept of Certificates

  • 11:00 Guilt vs. Shame

  • 17:18 The Mechanics of Change

  • 29:30 Visualizing the Problem

  • 30:40 Changing Thoughts and Behaviors

  • 31:02 Therapeutic Models and Their Evolution

  • 31:50 Milton Erickson's Innovative Techniques

  • 36:07 The Pee Pipe Story

  • 44:27 Self-Worth vs. Self-Esteem

  • 52:46 The Rarity of Human Life

  • 55:33 Humor and Therapy

  • 57:09 Conclusion and Outtakes

▶︎▶︎ HIGHLIGHTS:

  • ;-) Certificates: Abdication of Responsibility, etc.

  • ;-) Triangulation: The Wacky Therapy Game!

  • 3 Rules for Guilt

  • Guilt vs. Shame

  • Brain Mechanics: Our 3 Brains (thinking, emotional, primitive)

  • CBT

  • The frozen locomotive

  • 100K reps

  • We are slow, social learners vs. instinctual knowledge (cp to Pepper’s puppies)

  • The “Comma, Yet...”

  • Drawing: The Box

  • Solution Focus vs. watering the weeds

  • The Umbrella

  • Milton Erickson and the "Pee Pipe" story here.

  • Self-worth and self-esteem

  • ;-) Certificate of Self-Esteem

  • Thought-stopping

  • ;-) Product: Pee Pipe Kit

  • ;-) Glutton for Punishment Certificate

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001 | GR Masters: “Two Sisters, Two Mariages” with my friends Kara Sherman and Kristen Sagers

In this episode, part of The GREAT Relationship Masters Series (GR Masters), I talk to two sisters about their two marriages. My wife, Kara Sherman, and her sister, Kristen Sagers, giggle their way through sharing tips about having a successful marriage.

001 | GR Masters: “Two Sisters, Two Marriages” with my friends Kara Sherman and Kristen Sagers
Jonathan Sherman, LMFT

▶︎▶︎ EPISODE NOTES

In this episode, part of The GREAT Relationship Masters Series (GR Masters), I talk to two sisters about their two marriages. My wife, Kara Sherman, and her sister, Kristen Sagers, giggle their way through sharing tips about having a successful marriage.

▶︎▶︎ HIGHLIGHTS

  • 01:58 Marriage Statistics and Realities

  • 02:51 Examples of Good and Bad Marriages

  • 05:16 Kristen's Marriage Story

  • 08:29 Kara's Marriage Story

  • 28:52 What They Like About Their Husbands

  • 39:12 Reflecting on Personal Growth

    39:41 The Importance of Communication in Marriage

  • 46:06 Navigating Conflict and Anger

  • 50:35 The Evolution of Love

  • 59:16 Advice for Young Couples

  • 01:10:00 The Role of Communication and Understanding

  • 01:12:40 Final Thoughts on Marriage

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000 | Welcome to “The RelateGREAT! Podcast with Jonathan Sherman & Friends”

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