The Relate GREAT! Podcast with Jonathan Sherman & Friends
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We all want to have better relationships with others and with ourselves. This is The RelateGREAT! Podcast with Jonathan Sherman and Friends, and I am your host, Jonathan Sherman, LMFT, Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, author, and speaker. Over 30 years as a therapist, I’ve met a lot of cool people who know a lot of cool relationship and psych stuff. Join my fascinating guests and me as we talk about all kinds of relationship and mental health issues in a light-hearted, smart, insightful, and fun way. Join us! This’ll be fun…
007 | MH: “Mess and Mental Health - The Hidden Shame of Clutter” with my friends, The Pahl Sisters, Decluttering Experts
An interview with Jonathan Sherman, LMFT, where he shares seven ways to connect with your children.
In this interview with the Pahl Sisters, decluttering experts, we talk about the impact of mess on mental health, and vice versa.
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In this episode of The RelateGREAT! Podcast, host Jonathan Sherman is joined by Chelsea Paul and Karissa Pahl from All of You Services, a cleaning company that goes beyond traditional cleaning to address mental health struggles. Jonathan discovered Chelsea through a heartfelt social media post highlighting the connection between depression and overwhelming mess. Chelsea and Karissa share their approach to helping clients declutter and deep clean their homes without judgment, emphasizing the therapeutic benefits of a tidy space. They discuss the emotional and relational impacts of living in disorganized environments, their personal connection to mental health issues like ADHD, and their unique teamwork dynamics. The episode concludes with practical advice for listeners feeling overwhelmed by clutter.
00:00 Introduction to Chelsea's Post on Depression and Messiness
02:44 Mental Health and Cleaning: A Deeper Connection
03:29 Client Experiences and Vulnerability
06:12 The Process of Decluttering and Organizing
08:58 Challenges and Boundaries in Cleaning 10:42 The Emotional Impact of a Clean Space
21:16 The Sisters' Journey into Cleaning
25:13 Hyper-Focused and Satisfied
26:08 Family Therapist Insights
26:23 Navigating Family Business Dynamics
27:24 Communication Challenges and Strategies
31:50 Impact of Home Organization on Relationships
40:13 Tips for Listeners: Cleaning and Mindset Hacks
44:07 Final Thoughts and Contact Information
Referenced Resources:
Website: All of You Services
Facebook: facebook.com/allofyouservices
Episode Page: RelateGREAT.net/podcast/007-mess-and-mental-health
006 | Parenting: “7 Ways to Connect with Your Kids and Teens.” Interview with Jonathan.
An interview with Jonathan Sherman, LMFT, where he shares seven ways to connect with your children.
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In this episode, Jonathan Sherman, a marriage and family therapist, offers seven crucial parenting tips. The advice stems from a presentation he gave at a conference and an interview with young clinicians from Utah Youth Village. The key areas covered include understanding your child's world, allowing feedback, avoiding power struggles, the importance of both quality and quantity time, fostering good relationships with teenagers from an early age, being interested in your child's interests, and the value of appreciation. Sherman shares personal anecdotes and professional insights, encouraging parents to grow and adapt alongside their children while maintaining patience, presence, and authentic communication.
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01:24 1. Make an effort to understand your child’s world
02:11 2. Allow kids to give you feedback
05:26 3. Not engaging in power struggles allows kids to teach us -- Lesson from a 13-year-old rebel
12:37 4. Quality time is a function of quantity time - Patience and Presence.
16:07 5. Relationships With Teenagers Starts When They’re Young
18:32 6. Be interested in the things that interest your kids
21:19 7. Appreciation is a cushion
Referenced Resources:
The 7 Principles for Building a Strong Family book and online masterclass.
RESOLVE conflict,
IMPROVE communication,
INCREASE bonding, and
SECURE attachments with your partner and your kids.
My 7 Principles for Building Strong Families workbook and online course will help you, your partner, and your family overcome problems and create truly GREAT relationships that last a lifetime. Enroll today and get the workbook at RelateGREAT.net/strongfam
005 | The Call-in Show: “Dating Disasters!” Part 2
In this episode of the RelateGREAT! Podcast with Jonathan Sherman, listeners are treated to a variety of dating stories during the second part of a two-part call-in show focused on dating disasters.
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In this episode of the RelateGREAT! Podcast with Jonathan Sherman, listeners are treated to a variety of dating stories during the second part of a two-part call-in show focused on dating disasters. The episode features 12 callers, including Jonathan's son Adam, who shares his high-school dating mishap. Other callers like Peyton and his wife Lauren narrate their humorous and awkward relationship beginnings, and Austin recounts his clumsy journey from heartbreak to finding true love. Xerxes and Laurene share their long-term marriage experiences, emphasizing the importance of mutual respect and friendship in enduring relationships. Jonathan Sherman, a marriage and family therapist, also shares insights drawn from John Gottman's relationship research, highlighting the significance of friendship and admiration in successful marriages.
▶︎▶︎ HIGHLIGHTS
00:00 The Call-in Show: Dating Disasters! Part 2
00:54 Adam's High School Date
05:54 Caller Peyton and Lauren's Awkward Beginnings
17:23 Caller Austin's Nervousness
17:40 Introduction to the Writing Group
18:42 Austin's Clunky Love Story
20:42 The Turning Point in Austin's Relationship
24:45 The Proposal and Marriage
31:33 Reflections on Marriage and Friendship
36:00 Xerxes' Story of 32 Years of Marriage
43:01 Laurene's Bad Date and Love Story
49:13 Conclusion and Future Plans
Referenced Resources:
None
004 | The Call-in Show: “Dating Disasters!” Part 1
In the debut episode of the Relate Great Podcast Call-In Show, hosted by marriage and family therapist Jonathan Sherman, listeners dive into real-life stories about dating disasters.
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In the debut episode of the RelateGREAT! Podcast Call-In Show, hosted by marriage and family therapist Jonathan Sherman, listeners dive into real-life stories about dating disasters. Jonathan introduces the podcast's format and themes, focusing on humorous, touching, and sometimes tragic tales from the dating world. Callers share their personal experiences, ranging from shocking first dates to heartfelt reflections on lessons learned in relationships. The episode also offers insightful relationship principles and promotes Jonathan's online masterclass on building strong families.
▶︎▶︎ HIGHLIGHTS
00:00 The Call-in Show: Dating Disasters! Part 1
00:24 Introduction to the Relate Great Podcast
00:58 Podcast Format and Future Plans
01:39 Dating Scene Insights and Stories
05:12 Mindy's Dating Disaster
08:47 Jess's Relationship Struggles
15:34 Kara's Awkward Concert Date
20:57 Angel's Unforgettable First Date
27:50 Larissa's Long-Winded Date
31:46 The Unimpressive Husband
32:16 Dating Stories at Family Parties
32:53 Planning Future Episodes
33:51 Caller Taylor's Story
40:36 Mindy's Lovebomber
Referenced Resources:
None
003 | Communication: "The Pursue-Withdraw Dynamic" with my friend Emil Harker, LMFT (Copy)
In this interview with Emil Harker, LMFT, and Jonathan Sherman, LMFT, we laugh and talk about the often perplexing pursue-withdraw dynamic... and how to use it.
In this interview with Emil Harker, LMFT, and Jonathan Sherman, LMFT, we laugh and talk about the often perplexing pursue-withdraw dynamic... and how to use it.
▶︎▶︎ EPISODE NOTES
In this episode of the RelateGREAT! Podcast, licensed marriage and family therapists Emil Harker, LMFT, and Jonathan Sherman, LMFT, delve into the pursue-withdraw dynamic often seen in relationships. This is a re-broadcast of an episode Emil did on a former podcast he was involved with. They discuss the motivations behind pursuing and withdrawing behaviors and how these can create a damaging cycle if not managed properly. Jonathan and Emil share practical strategies for both pursuers and withdrawers to break the cycle and foster healthier communication and connections. By emphasizing the importance of safety and understanding, they offer actionable advice to help listeners strengthen their relationships and avoid common pitfalls.
▶︎▶︎ HIGHLIGHTS
00:00 Introduction: The Art of Listening
00:25 Stop, Look, and Listen: Practical Tips
01:40 Meet Emil Harker: A Trusted Therapist
04:20 Exploring the Pursue-Withdraw Dynamic
04:53 Common Terms and Misconceptions
05:56 The Pursue-Withdraw Cycle in Relationships
08:05 Gender Patterns and Topic-Based Dynamics
12:12 Managing the Pursue-Withdraw Dynamic
14:52 Understanding the Pursuit of Sex and Power
15:22 The Emptiness of Pursuit
16:59 The Pursue-Withdraw Dynamic
17:09 Why Do People Withdraw?
20:26 The Role of Fear in Withdrawal
20:52 Strategies for Pursuers and Withdrawers
23:46 The Importance of Safety in Relationships
26:56 Effective Communication Techniques
30:12 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
Referenced Resources:
002 | "On Stuckness and Getting Unstuckified" with my friend Gary Klein, LCSW
In this interview with Gary Klein, LCSW and Jonathan Sherman, LMFT talk about getting unstuck in life with some tips and tricks from the field.
In this interview, Gary Klein, LCSW, and Jonathan Sherman, LMFT, talk about getting unstuck in life with some tips and tricks from the field.
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This episode explores the idea that most mental and emotional issues boil down to feeling stuck. They share insights using anecdotes, metaphors, and humor while discussing basic cognitive-behavioral techniques to get 'unstuck.' They highlight the importance of distinguishing between self-worth and self-esteem, recognizing guilt versus shame, and the power of repetition in changing behaviors. The host and guest also entertain with a playful banter about outlandish ideas like selling P tubes and certificates to metaphorically and humorously address the concept of being stuck. In this lighthearted and informative episode, listeners are offered both laughter and practical advice on enhancing their mental health.
▶︎▶︎ TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Introduction and Podcast Origins
01:14 Welcome to the Heavy Mental Hour
01:59 Understanding Stuckness in Therapy
04:55 The Concept of Certificates
11:00 Guilt vs. Shame
17:18 The Mechanics of Change
29:30 Visualizing the Problem
30:40 Changing Thoughts and Behaviors
31:02 Therapeutic Models and Their Evolution
31:50 Milton Erickson's Innovative Techniques
36:07 The Pee Pipe Story
44:27 Self-Worth vs. Self-Esteem
52:46 The Rarity of Human Life
55:33 Humor and Therapy
57:09 Conclusion and Outtakes
▶︎▶︎ HIGHLIGHTS:
;-) Certificates: Abdication of Responsibility, etc.
;-) Triangulation: The Wacky Therapy Game!
3 Rules for Guilt
Guilt vs. Shame
Brain Mechanics: Our 3 Brains (thinking, emotional, primitive)
CBT
The frozen locomotive
100K reps
We are slow, social learners vs. instinctual knowledge (cp to Pepper’s puppies)
The “Comma, Yet...”
Drawing: The Box
Solution Focus vs. watering the weeds
The Umbrella
Milton Erickson and the "Pee Pipe" story here.
Self-worth and self-esteem
;-) Certificate of Self-Esteem
Thought-stopping
;-) Product: Pee Pipe Kit
;-) Glutton for Punishment Certificate
Referenced Resources:
001 | GR Masters: “Two Sisters, Two Mariages” with my friends Kara Sherman and Kristen Sagers
In this episode, part of The GREAT Relationship Masters Series (GR Masters), I talk to two sisters about their two marriages. My wife, Kara Sherman, and her sister, Kristen Sagers, giggle their way through sharing tips about having a successful marriage.
▶︎▶︎ EPISODE NOTES
In this episode, part of The GREAT Relationship Masters Series (GR Masters), I talk to two sisters about their two marriages. My wife, Kara Sherman, and her sister, Kristen Sagers, giggle their way through sharing tips about having a successful marriage.
▶︎▶︎ HIGHLIGHTS
01:58 Marriage Statistics and Realities
02:51 Examples of Good and Bad Marriages
05:16 Kristen's Marriage Story
08:29 Kara's Marriage Story
28:52 What They Like About Their Husbands
39:12 Reflecting on Personal Growth
39:41 The Importance of Communication in Marriage
46:06 Navigating Conflict and Anger
50:35 The Evolution of Love
59:16 Advice for Young Couples
01:10:00 The Role of Communication and Understanding
01:12:40 Final Thoughts on Marriage
Listen to “The Relate GREAT! Podcast with Jonathan Sherman & Friends” at RelateGREAT.net/podcast. I know a LOT of cool people who know a LOT of cool relationship stuff!
000 | Welcome to “The RelateGREAT! Podcast with Jonathan Sherman & Friends”
Listen to “The Relate GREAT! Podcast with Jonathan Sherman & Friends” at RelateGREAT.net/podcast. I know a LOT of cool people who know a LOT of cool relationship and psych stuff!
Want More Relationship Goodness?
Enroll today in my 7 PRINCIPLES for BUILDING STRONG FAMILIES online course
at RelateGREAT.net/strongfam.
RESOLVE conflict,
IMPROVE communication,
INCREASE bonding, and
SECURE attachments with your partner and your kids.
In my 7 PRINCIPLES for BUILDING STRONG FAMILIES online course, you will learn skills and tools to strengthen your parenting and partnering. This self-paced online course and workbook will help you, your partner, and your family overcome problems and create truly GREAT relationships that last a lifetime.
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Enroll today and get the workbook at RelateGREAT.net/strongfam.